Subj: [IRELAND] CAMOGIE
Date: 6/16/00 2:04:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: j.caughey@ntlworld.com (j.caughey)
Reply-to: j.caughey@ntlworld.com
To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com
Feminism came relatively late to Ireland, and it was not until the early
years of the last century that girls from the Gaelic League branches in
Dublin played the first camogie match at the Navan Showgrounds.
The Universities began to compete for the Ashbourne Cup in 1915, and
during the 1920s the game spread outside Dublin. Since the inauguration
of the All-Ireland championships in 1932, progress has been steady, and
there are now some 400 affiliated camogie clubs catering for
10,000/13,000 players.
Provincial and subsidiary championships are well organized, and schools'
competitions are very popular in Ulster and Leinster.
Though based entirely on hurling, the camogie rules doe not permit
body-charging or physical contact, with the result that the game, as
played between top-class teams, often produces a brilliant exhibition of
ball-playing and stick-work.
Surprisingly, camogie flourishes in many areas where hurling is
virtually unknown; and it is not the traditional areas, like Tipperary,
Cork or Kilkenny, but Dublin, that has dominated the All-Ireland camogie
champtionships.
Many of the early camogie players were members of Cumann na mBan, and
played an active part in the Irish War of Independence.
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Subj: Derry Diary #1
Date: 6/16/00 11:29:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: bogside@ireland.com (BlackShade News)
To: OLeoghain@aol.com (List Member)
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Failte to our readers around the world!
And greetings from the second floor of the Derry library overlooking the
lovely Ulster Bus Station...
It's a warm Friday afternoon, must be close on 80 degrees out!!!
Here's what's happening.
Just so you know....these diaries concern a group of young high school
people from St. Ignatius High School in San Francisco CA who have come to
Northern Ireland and Derry to do community service...Along with them are
two adults...well one adult Lisa, and me, BlackShade....It is a group who
pay for the privilege of living simply in a faith community...We live,
eat, sleep, pray together as a community...We work seemlessly and almost
transparently in the community wherein we live...We live in a dance hall
which was converted into a parish hall, St. Eugene's and sleep on the tile
floor...outside the door is the Bogside of Derry...we have come to help
not to organize, and listen and not 'Americanize'...we bathe 3x a week at
the local swimming pool and we keep a very low profile (as low as American
teens can be)....we do not take sides in the politics of the area, we try
to listen to all sides of issues and make up our own minds...because this
is the community we will take back to San Francisco on July 4th.
With that said...here's the news....
Tuesday June 13th
Stayed overnite in London waiting for the kids and Lisa to arrive from San
Franciso. I stayed with Joanne O'Brien a photojournalist and friend of
Mary Nelis. She had finished an assignment in Derry interviewing and
photographing survivors and family members of the Bloody Sunday Massacre
on 30 Jan 1972. We walked through Hampstead Heath on a warm Summer
evening and talked about the assignment she had and about photography in
general until the wee hours of the morning. By the way she lives in a
house once lived in by Keats...Early the 14th I traveled by 'tube' to
Paddington Station and from there to Heathrow. If I was a drinker I would
have had a hangover, but that not being the case I still had a
headache...must have been all that fresh air in London.
Wednesday June 14th
The kids arrived dazed and out of it...Is that what I look like after a
flight?? I felt so sorry for them. No one got any sleep. British Air
crams people into teeny tiny seats, kind of like those ships they used to
bring 'helpers' from North and Central Africa...We almost missed our
flight to Belfast because our fearless leader (me) was waiting at the
wrong gate. We got a special announcement inviting us to haul arse to the
gate....Flight to Belfast was uneventful and our arrival was the same....I
had all the kids and Lisa to phone home (6.30 am PDT)to say they had
arrived safely....Then it was another hour befor we got the Derry
Airporter...It was 9 of us with all the gear for two weeks and an elderly
couple on the bus...As soon as the elderly couple got off in front of an
Orange Hall, the driver opened up to tell us a bit of the history
surrounding the development of the Province of Ulster...quite interesting,
but I think the kids were still in a coma...As we approached Derry we took
a side trip through the Loyalist area of the Waterside so the kids could
see the murals on the walls of homes and the curbs painted
red-white-and-blue...I remember when I first came to the North in the
early 90's, I thought the people were celebrating our 4th of July....doh!!!
The driver took us all the way to St. Eugene's Parish Hall (the
Stardust)...The neighborhood already knew we were coming so James, Rory, a
few of the girls were there to greet us... We unloaded the bus....by that
time it was, being Wednesday, that holiest of days (along with Monday and
Friday) SHOWER DAY! We went to the public pool and stood under the water
for a while and slowly woke up...I ordered pizza and drinks and it was a
quiet dinner...I didn't want to inundate them with a whole raft of things
so we had prayer and I put them to bed so to speak....Since the sun sets
around 10.30 or so they were disorganized as to the real time...A couple
of the boys, Riley and Brian came out to play street soccer with James and
Rory, Alexandra joined in briefly, but the two of us mostly watched...I
don't do sports...I fall down a lot and it is embarrassing....
About 11 I called it quits, locked us all into the Stardust and settled
down for the night....
Thursday June 15th
Every one was up at the crack of dawn ready to go...Joe had a bloody nose,
but we managed to stave it off...They were raring to go like when you get
over tired and you think you have energy...I knew the crash was going to
happen and that they would need to nap so I took it sloooooooooowly....It
was a day to do touristy things so we started with breakfast at a little
hole in the wall place in the Bogside; you know, one of those places for a
couple of pounds you can get a huge breakfast? Brian got pancakes and
proceeded to put vinegar on them from a bottle with brown liquid in it...I
shrugged, I just thought it was an old Cork custom...it wasn't...and it
wasn't syrup...Then it was off to the Guildhall where the Bloody Sunday
Inquiry has been running for the past 35 days. The representative of
those killed was still making his opening statement...This is the inquiry
run by Lord Saville and two other judges, one from Canada and one from New
Zealand...We stayed and listen in the gallery for about 45 minutes or
so...quite interesting...We then went over to the Bloody Sunday Trust
building that last years group help paint....(girls, the building is
beautiful and Micky sends his regards...)We chatted with Micky McKinney
whose brother Will was killed on Bloody Sunday....he gave the kids an
earful. All he and his group want is to clear the names of those who were
murdered that day. To this day they are still refered to as IRA gunmen,
which if you read any of the documentation, is ludicrous...He still talks
about the group that helped out last year and how we help raise £1500 in
one day for the trust-fund...We used to go after people and ask them for
spare change rather than have them come up to us...I guess the people were
so scared of us that they just gave us money so we would go away...
We then walked the Derry walls so that we could see all of the Bogside
right beneath the RUC tower...very impressive, the view not the RUC
tower.....
We did our big shopping for the rest of the week and such at the local
market...it's sooo nice having 16 extra hands to run about the store....
Lisa cooked pasta and we gobbled it up along with a zesty
salad...mmmmmmmmm...we then went to watch Rory's kickboxing practice which
was pretty impressive as it was very funny...It's held right down the
street from the Stardust...I get the creeps walking through Glenfada Park
everyday where 2 people were killed on Bloody Sunday...more about that
laters......
Tomorrow, Friday, we visit the projects in Rosemont and in Westend...
Everyone seems to be in good spirits and its good to have Lisa along to
add enthusiasm...
If you want to take a look at some of the sites I have mentioned about,
check out the BlackShade site and click on Northern Ireland...
http://www.blackshade.net/
Saturday we are off to Beflast for the day....I decided not to go to
Portadown because of an Orange Parade in Lurgan a few miles from
Portadown...So we'll just check the papers instead...
More, Monday....
Cheers,
paul (BlackShade)
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Subj: Derry Diaries #2
Date: 6/19/00 10:19:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: bogside@ireland.com (BlackShade News)
To: OLeoghain@aol.com (List Member)
BlackShade News - http://www.blackshade.net/
Failte to our readers around the world and hi to Regina in Belfast.
Here's what's happening....
The Weather Is HOT! (by my standards..which is anything over 50 degrees F).
From the second floor of the Derry Library with my friend Darren (who is
checking my spelling)....and out the window is the ever lovely Ulster Bus
Station.....
Friday 16 June
This was the day to visit all of the projects in Derry that the kids will
be working at. This was another 'walking' tour. At each stop the kids got
an ear-full from the directors. We climbed the Rosemount Hill to the
Community Center and spent a good hour and a half listening to the history
of the center, the the battle of the Bogside and house raids. Rosemount
has the 8th highest unemployment figures in all of Europe. This is not
that big of an area either and it is part of Derry.
We then went to visit Sr. Bridget, O.P. who runs a play school for kids
regardless of their religious background. She is a transplanted American
nun and tough as nails.
We then went back towards St. Eugene's and stopped at the Pat Finucane
Ceter for human rights. Paul O'Connor also gave us a lecture on what the
center does for residents who have found the justice system lacking. They
dig up information for people to send to the European Council on Human
Rights.
By the end of the sessions, the kids have heard personal stories which
helps to put a 'face' on the projects and people for whom we will be
working with.
The evening was spent 'crawling the pubs in search of traditional Irish
music. We found several came home and collapsed.
Saturday 17 June
Today was the walking tour of Belfast. At the end of the day it felt as
if we had walked a gazzillion miles....We walked up the Falls road to the
Catholic cemetery....found Guiseppe Conlon's grave after a massive search.
You remember that he was the dad in the movie 'In the Name of the
Father'...we brought flowers and put them on the grave...We walked down
the Shankhill Road and run into a Unionist street parade and
festival...(pictures as soon as I get back)...Brian was offered pork ribs
by a Loyalist and we all stopped to listen...I think the kids felt that
just by walking down the street they now had faces to put on the
Prostestant Community....Brian is a Cork man and I threatened to publish
his picture in the Cork paper...
Sunday 18 June
Happy Father's Day!....sniff sniff...I'm 7000 miles away from me wanes
(wee ones....Derry talk as translated by Darren who is helping me write
this stuff today)...anyway, we went to Buncrana in Co. Donegal because it
was massively, tremendously hot here...It was OUTSTANDING! the kids walked
along the Loch and collected sea shells, played soccer, and got west sorta
kinda...
Before that we went to 11 am Mass in the Cathedral and the sermon was
about change...good topic....afterwards we went over to Mary Nelis' house
for some tea and conversation and a few laughs....great craic
......back to the beach....it was great...
When we returned, Alex and Brian made us chicken which was excellente! and
while sitting on our stoop a man came over and asked us where we were
from....I guess we haven't started to 'blend' yet...One of the boys said,
'We're Americans' the man replied 'No Shit' as if to say, I already know
that...what part of America....
Anyways, long story short...he lived in San Francisco up until a year
go...great conversation.....
Now we're up to date! Tomorrow only one day from now on......
Until manana,
cheers,
BlackShade
Subj: Derry Diaries #4
Date: 6/21/00 6:01:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: bogside@ireland.com (BlackShade News)
To: OLeoghain@aol.com (List Member)
BlackShade News - http://www.blackshade.net/
Failte from the excellently appointed computer room on the second floor of
the Derry library in full view of the sumptious Ulsterbus Bus
Station...here's what's happening...
I am always a day behind in these diaries so much happens early in the
morning at the Stardust (St. Eugene's Parish Hall)...besides there is an
RUC helicopter hovering over this place and it makes me feel guilty...
20 June Tuesday
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DOGS AND FLAGS
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I can't get over how many dogs there are running around Derry at any given
time. They all seem to know where they are going, and have a definite
mission in mind...more so than the tourists...Some one asked me for
directions yesterday....I've made it! I look like a local...trouble is,
that when I open my mouth, they can instantly tell that I'm not from
around here.
There is a big discussion of the use of flags in the North. The Ulster
Unionist Party (UUP) wants to ban all offensive displays of flags. I take
this to mean that the tricolor shouldn't be flown in the
North....mmmm...seems to me that the Welsh and the Scots both fly the
flags of their nationality side by side with the Union Jack...sounds like
bigotry to me...oh well...even in the states we get all riled up about the
flag... I know, lets put the flags on the roaming dogs...
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MEAL UPDATE
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Tonites meal was a welcome respite from last night's 'interesting'
meal...Katie and Mary-Kate cooked chicken and it was great...last nights
meal kind of looked like freshly mowed grass that had been outside in the
rain for a while...remember I DID eat it tho (I think I was using myself
as an example...I'm not very bright in all of this)
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ROUTINE
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We are setting into the routine of getting up, making breakfast and going
to work...We clean up after the previous night's bingo bash before heading
out to the projects. The kids gather for lunch at Brooke park, a central
point from all the different projects.
All of them come home tired...which is good...from last week's "What are
we going to do tonight?" to this week's "We're not going out are we?" is a
nice change...
There is always soccer in the street. Brian, I firmly believe, dreams
about soccer games...give him a ball and he kicks it around....Our group
of 'goupies' is growing. They gather each afternoon waiting for any sign
of the 'mericans. There are groupies for the girls, groupies for the boys
and I talk to old people... Brian has obviously had an influence in the
life of one lad, Darren, whom you all met on Monday. Darren is also known
in the neighborhood as 'Bean'. Anyway he comes over to the Stardust
dressed in saggy pants, just like Brian...Of course Brian says that he
sags because he can't tighten his belt any more...we know better. I guess
we do make an impression.
Riley and Mary-Kate are up to 36 'coms' in transciption since I got them
magnifying glasses...the atmospher at the Sinn Fein office is very
relaxed...Joe and Lisa are jamming through the task of collating articles,
testimonies and the like for the Pat Finucane Centre. Paul O'Connor told
me privately that he was impressed with the work that the two of them have
done...Pat, Brian come home dirty and tired from Sr. Bridget's after
school group...
Reily came home from work this afternoon and tried to take a nap in the
little room we call home, unfortunately it was the beginning of Irish
Dancing lessons on the dancefloor right above where we live. You can hear
every little foot and hard shoe through the roof....oh well, all part of
the experience....
Rained very hard this afternoon and a bit this evening, but the kids were
still there when we got back from the projects...I guess we are the hot
ticket in town...
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TOUR AND STUFF
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The days last week were used for two purposes; 1) to be tourists and 2)get
some background on the history and the life in the Northern Part of this
island. I think we accomplished both. The walk through the Belfast
neighborhoods was an eye-opener to all of them...this walk was far from
the main Falls and Shakhill roads and through the neighborhoods, and up
allies and the like...I do think they are beginning to listen as
well...quite an accomplishment....
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DUBLIN
-------------------------
Coming up this Friday is a trip to Dublin and another walking tour of
famous places that no-one has ever heard of...but I have..
-------------------------
More tomorrow
cheers,
BlackShade
Subj: Derry Diaries #5
Date: 6/22/00 8:56:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: bogside@ireland.com (BlackShade News)
To: OLeoghain@aol.com (List Member)
BlackShade News - http://www.blackshade.net/
Failte to our friends still with us...
It's lashin' rain here in my comfortable, lumpy chair in the library
overlooking the red-brick and equally lumpy Ulsterbus Bus Station in
Derry, Northern Ireland...here's what's been going on...
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EURO 2000
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Cheers from people sitting by their TV's last night as Romania defeats
England in the quarter finals in soccer....We really didn't need a TV to
know who won....I guess anytime England plays any sport, the people cheer
for the other side...People from Portugal and Romania better book travel
to Northern Ireland and they'll probably get free stuff...
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I'LL BE R.U.C.-ing YOU
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Little excitement in the evening outside our front door at the Stardust. 2
heavily armored landrovers of the RUC made their way down the narrow
street toward our building. Immediately I felt guilty (probably my
Irish-Catholic upbringing)...anyway two oficers got out of one of the
landrovers and began to walk the street carrying a rather large automatic
weapon (usual gun of choice)...I ran in to get the camera and the kids so
we watched from the porch...out of nowhere a rock hit one of the
landrovers and the two officers dived back into the back of the vehicle
and drove off...The first got away but the second vehicle was hit by a
bottle...It's tough being a policeman in the Bogside...I hope they solve
this 'policing'bill' soon.
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THE WORK
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Alex and Katie went with the children from St. Eugene's Play School to the
Belfast zoo....26 wains (wee ones) were on the bus for the 70 mile
trip...Sounds as if the day was full...When I saw them when they returned,
they both looked tried but happy...The lunch menu at the zoo was Beans and
Chips, Sausages and Chips, Burgers and Chips, and of course the all time
favorite 'Just Chips'...one funny thing though, as they were leaving one
of the children said 'Look those two are fighting.' Looking around the
girls saw two boars mating...an educational experience....
----
Mary Kate and Riley are up to transcribing 55 'coms'...each one is unique
and different. Their description of the Sinn Fein office is also
interesting. People telephone all day long and there are many people who
come to the office seeking advice or help from, bothersome neighbors,
teenagers harassing them, and the like. The usual response for action is
'We'll send someone over to 'talk' with them.' That is usually enough of
a threat...used to be we'd say "I'm going to call the cops." Now its "I'm
going to call Sinn Fein."
----
Lisa and Joe are almost finished cataloging the Pat Finucane Center's vast
array of articles. They should be finished by Tuesday of next week. It's
tedious work, but valuable work...and they both are learning mucha bout
the unseen struggles of the comman people of the North over the years.
Lisa is great to have as a co-leader...she is funny, makes great decisions
and sees through the ca-ca that sometimes crops up....It is so relaxing to
have someone I can trust and who's decisions are sound....
-----
Brian and Patrick are also worn out each day by their work at the
Bluegrass Playgroup. When I went to visit them yesterday, Brian was
eating his lunch and Patrick was sound asleep in the 'quiet'
room....awwwww....
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JOE'S SPECIAL
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No this one didn't come from Westlake. This was a Derry original dreamed
up by Joe. It included sausages, spuds, peppers, and something
else....bottom line, it was delicious! Both Pat and Riley (who also
helpped cook) licked their plates clean, and everyone elses' too.
Young James and young Darren (aka 'Bean') stayed for dinner. As a matter
of fact James showed Joe how to correctly cook the meat...whatever he did
it worked...Darren and James then decided to help 'clean-up' and washed
all the dishes...James'mom sent over muffins which disappeared faster than
the famous 'spinach' dinner...we played UNO after that and then started to
collapse....
James' family is quite interesting. All his uncles are undertakers (as is
his dad)...and James is thinking about the business as well. His oldest
uncle was killed in 1972 in a bomb blast...evryone has a story to tell in
Derry....
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THE MARCHING SEASON
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The UDA/UFF yesterday announced that it may break the ceasefire if the
Protestant community is not left alone....no one is sure what this
means...I hope they wait a while...There are a few contentious Orange
Marches coming up on Saturday (we'll be in Dublin) and on the 2nd of July
in Portadown (Drumcree Church)...If the real day of celebration is July
12th why do they need 1,800 mini-parades before that
date...mmmm....meanwhile the Bloody Sunday Inquiry goes on it's now in its
38th day of opening statements....I wish they would televise it...
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That's all from here...more tomorrow
cheers
BlackShade
Subj: Derry Diaries #7-8
Date: 6/26/00 12:40:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: bogside@ireland.com (BlackShade News)
To: OLeoghain@aol.com (List Member)
BlackShade News - http://www.blackshade.net/
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For those of you who wish to delete yourselves from these two weeks of
newsletters...I have been trying to remove your email addresses for the
past half hour and have been unsuccessful...I will try again this
afternoon...I apologize for this...I am at the mercy of Microsoft...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Failte to our friends around the globe and here in Derry City...from my
little window overlooking the Black Taxis outside the Ulsterbus Station!
--------------------
Just so you know....these diaries concern a group of young high school
people from St. Ignatius High School in San Francisco CA who have come to
Northern Ireland and Derry to do community service...Along with them are
two adults...well one adult Lisa, and me, BlackShade....It is a group who
pay for the privilege of living simply in a faith community...We live,
eat, sleep, pray together as a community...We work seemlessly and almost
transparently in the community wherein we live...We live in a dance hall
which was converted into a parish hall, St. Eugene's, and sleep on the tile
floor...outside the door is the Bogside of Derry...we have come to help
not to organize, and listen and not 'Americanize'...we bathe 3x a week
atthe local swimming pool and we keep a very low profile (as low as
American teens can be)....we do not take sides in the politics of the
area, we try to listen to all sides of issues and make up our own
minds...because this is the community we will take back to San Francisco
on July 4th.
With that said...here's the news....
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TIDBIT FROM THE DERRY JOURNAL
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"Tesco chasier Sharon McMonagle was left dumbstruck after her latest run
in with a disgruntled shopper at the Strand Road's store's Customer
Service Desk. The unnamed man walked up to Sharon to complain about the
disposable barbecue he had purchased during the sweltering heat of last
weekend. He complained that, unlike the picture on the cover of the
barbecue, his package hadn't contained any meat. Sharon delicately told
the man that what he had bought was only meant to be a disposable barbecue
and that he would have to buy his meat separately. The man, accepting his
mistake, sighed and muttered :"I better ring home and get the wife to take
the others out of the freezer then."
June 24th Saturday
Dublin...
We are here in the capital city of Ireland to take in historic stites and
that we did...We stayed on the balcony of Gonzaga College (a Jesuit
school), had all the showers we could eat and mild warm weather... I
walked their feet off (again)... they saw Trinity College, Temple Bar, The
h'penny bridge, O'Connell street, Christ Church, St. Patrick's, as well as
Kilmainham Gaol where the rebels of 1916 were executed...the jail was also
used in "In the Name of the Father."....we went to Mass at St. Teresa's
off Grafton street...Housing prices in Dublin have gone through the
roof...building everywhere you look...I was sorry I didn't have enough
time to take them to my old neighborhood in Cabra on the North side of the
Liffey...it has built up as well....3years ago you could buy a nice 3
bedroom home for £18-20m. Now these same homes are going for
£80-120m...Starurday night we did a 'mid-term' exercise which gets us
ready for the seond week of work...the kids are to select 2 incidents from
their jorunals and talk about them. Normally this exercise would take
maybe an hour, ours lasted past midnight...they had a lot to say...it was
good...
June 25th Sunday
The bus ride home to Derry was pretty uneventful...I wasn't sleepy so I
looked aout the window at the magnificent countryside...some teens on the
bus were playing 'I spy...' and driving Patrick crazy...he wanted to
sleep...when we arrive home to our pad in the Stardust, Lisa and I whipped
up some pasta and the kids caught up on their journals...the usual
neighborhood kids, minus James and Bean, were out front waiting for
us....Brian and Alex played soccer for a while before we all went in and
collapsed.
Tomorrow they start new jobs at new locations as the experience
continues.....btw...don't believe everything you read in the papers about
the North...
cheers,
paul (BlackShade)
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Subj: [IRELAND] NAMES OF WOMEN
Date: 7/11/00 8:55:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: j.caughey@ntlworld.com (j.caughey)
Reply-to: j.caughey@ntlworld.com (j.caughey)
To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com
Aine ('beauty', an attribute of the moon), Anne.
Aisling ('an epiphany', 'a manifestation of the divine'), Esther.
Aoibheann ('lovely shape'), Eavan.
Blathnaid ('little flower'), Florence.
Brighid (strength'), Brigid, Bridie.
Caitrin, Cait, Caitilin (Greek, 'pure'), Catriona.
Ciara ('the dark one'), Keary.
Damhnait ('little poet'), Devnet, Dymphna.
Eibhlin (Greek, 'sunlight'), Eileen, Evelyn, Helen.
Eilis (Hebrew, 'word of God), Elizabeth.
Eithne ('kernel'), Ethna, Edna.
Fionnuala ('bright shoulder'), an attribute of the moon), Finola, Nuala.
Gobnait ('small mouth'), Abigail, Deborah.
Gormflaith ('the stranger lady'), Barbara.
Grainne ('perfect', 'virginal', attribute of the moon), Grania, Grace, Gertrude.
Ide ('thirst'), Ida, Ita.
Mairead (Greek, 'a pearl'), Margaret, Marjorie.
Muire (Hebrew - 'of the sea', 'bitterness') Mary - this name is reserved for the Blessed Virgin.
Maire (Hebrew, 'of the sea', 'bitterness), Mary, Maria, Miriam, Maura, Moya, May.
Nora (Latin, 'honourable'), Norah, Honor.
Orthlaith ('the golden lady'), Orla.
Proinnseas (Latin, 'french', 'frank'), Frances, Fanny,.
Sadhbh ('goodness'), Sive, Sophia.
Sile (Latin, 'blind'), Sheila, Cecily, Julia.
Siobhan, Siun. (feminine of Sean, above), Joan, Johanna, Jeanne, Hannah.
Sorcha ('bright'), Sarah.
Una ('the white one', attribute of the moon), Agnes, Winifred, Freda, Inez.
Gaelic English
Aodh (fire) Hugh
Berach Barry
Brian (strength) Bernard
Cathal (great warrior) Charles
Conn (wisdom)
Cormac (son of the chariot)
Ceallaigh Kelly
Connad Kenneth
Dathi David
Dhonal/Domhnall Daniel
Diarmaid(god of arms)Jeremiah, Darby
Donogh/Donoch Denis/ Duncan in Scotland
Eamonn Edmund
Elishe Alice
Feargal(man of valour)Virgil
Feidhlim (great goodness) Felix
Flann (blood, of red complexion)
Liam William
McGowan Smith
Maol (bold person, spiritual servant)
Niall (noble knight)
Ruadhri Rory, Roger
Seamus James
Tomoltach Timothy, Thomas
Tuathal (possessed of large land, property)
I don't know how accurate this is, but I found it interesting
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Go n-ithe an cat thú is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat
May the cat eat you, and may the cat be eaten by the devil.
Subj: Dictionary of Anglo-Irish
Date: 9/23/00 9:20:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: iasc@SOFTCOM.NET (Paul Carr)
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A chairde,
Dia daoibh. Fuair me/ eolas inniu faoin leabhar seo:
A Dictionary of Anglo-Irish by Diarmuid O Muirithe
(Paperback; 15.00 IEP / 20.00 USD)
This important work is the result of a number of years of painstaking
research into the 'hidden life' of English as spoken by the Irish. It
fills a long-felt void in the study of both Irish and English, by
providing the first extensive compilation of Hiberno-English words, their
meanings and etymologies. The legendary eloquence of the Irish is here
shown to be the product of not one, but two languages. This applies
equally to the spoken word as to the great landmarks of Anglo-Irish
literary achievement. Dr. O Muirithe has collected, from written and
oral sources, the most comprehensive evidence to date of the influence of
Gaelic on modern spoken English in Ireland.
Read Ireland Web Site Home Page: http://www.readireland.com
sla/n,
Paul Carr
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Labhair í agus mairfidh sí!
Irish American Social Club, Sacramento, CA
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Scríobh Dennis King::
> Here's a fairly comprehensive list of the many versions of the l-word,
> from a message I sent to Gaeilge-A a while back. The first sentence
> notes that "luchorpán", which is our first written evidence of the word,
> appears in the 8th century in "Echtra Fergusa maic Léti" as the name of
> a type of water sprite.
>
> +++++++++++++++
>
> Is cosúil gur úsáideadh an focal "luchorpán" den chéad uair san
> ochtú céad in "Echtra Fergusa maic Léti" mar ainm ar shaghas
> síofra uisce.
>
> Is iomaí cor a chuir sé de ina dhiaidh sin:
>
> lochramán
> loimreachán
> loragádán
> lucharachán
7c
Go raibh míle maith agat, a Dhonnchaidh. Is cuimhin liom an tsraith sin
comhrá go maith. Tá na teachtaireachtaí siúd le fáil fós i gCartlann an
liosta Gaelic-L (?) ach níl an dáta dóibh agam.
Thanks very much, Dennis. I remember that discussion thread very well.
Those messages are still available in the Gaelic-L (?) Archives but I don't
have the date for them.
Tá a lán i dtaobh an tslua sí agus na leipreachán insan irisleabhar
Béaloideas, achan uimhir di b'fhéidir, ach tá alt faoi leith ann a bhaineas
go díreach leis an ábhar seo againne agus ar mhaith liomsa féin a léamh: 'An
Leipreachán san Ainmníocht' le Jeremiah Gillen in Béaloideas 50 ('80).
There's a lot about the fairy host and the leprechauns in the journal
Béaloideas, maybe every issue of it, but there is a particular article in it
that has directly to do with our topic and that I would like to read myself:
'The Leprechaun in Nomenclature', etc. above.
Má's síofraí uisce iad ó thús cad chuige an nasc bunúsach acu le deisiú
bróg? If they are originally wate sprites why the basic link with shoe
mending?
Seosamh
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